-Diablo's Journal, 22 Jul 21

Size, Strength, and Aging

1.) 15-30 years old

•Best responses to size, strength training
•No huge difference within this range
•Quick recovery from joint stress
•Uncomplicated recovery from injury
•If you want MAXIMUM lifetime gains, starting training early to middle of this range is KEY
•And focusing on steady construction of raw strength and MASS the most
•Not on details of strength or physique as much

2.) 30-40 years old

•Good responses to size, strength training
•Closing in on 40 can see lowered responses
•Decent recovery from joint stress
•Decent recovery from injury, but can be lengthy and might no always be complete
•For most people that started lifting in the 15-30 age range, this is where they peak
•This is where you start focusing on details of physique and strength development
•This is where small details count to squeeze out progress

3.) 40-60 years old

•Significantly lower responses to size, strength training
•BIG difference within this range
•40-50 much more robust than 50-60
•Much longer recovery from joint stress
•Heavy sessions need to be less frequent
•Lighter sessions (10-30 reps) more frequent, a bigger fraction of total volume
•Potentially complicated recovery from injury
•You want to make sure injury avoidance is HUGE in your training here
•If you START lifting in this range, you'll see big changes
•If you started lifting in the 30-40 range, you'll peak here
•If you started in the 15-30 range and have been serious:
•You'll peak either in 30-40 or early 40s
•After that, you can hold/reduce size and strength slowly

4.) 60+ years old

•Vastly lower responses to size, strength training
•BIG difference within this range
•60-75 much more robust than 75+
•Much longer recovery from joint stress
•Heavy sessions need to be less frequent
•Lighter sessions (10-30 reps) more frequent, is MOST of the work
•Potentially complicated recovery from injury
•You want to make sure injury avoidance is HUGE in your training here
•Perhaps even the dominant guiding principle
•If you START lifting in this range, you'll see very life-altering changes
•If you started lifting in 40-60 range, you'll peak here, but begin to reduce size/strength soon
•All other age group starts will get smaller and weaker through this range

5.) Take-home message

•1.) NO, you are very unlikely to reach your genetic potential if you start lifting after age 30
•But you can still get jacked and strong

•2.)DO NOT lift like you did in your 20's when you're not in your 20's
•Youth rewards the bold
•Age rewards the cautious and patient

•3.) As you get older than 30:
•Listen to your body
•Warm up more slowly
•Ramp volume/load slowly in mesos
•Don't risk it all for a big PR as often
•Train with lighter weights more and more, still close to failure, but less and less 1-3 strength and 5-10 for size

•4.) The super bright side on lifting through ageing:
•Yeah, it sucks to get weaker as you age
•But if you stick to hard lifting, you have a VERY GOOD CHANCE of DYING with the strength of an average 30 year old
This means you're NEVER unable to care for yourself, travel, hike, and do all your favorite things
•Grandpa tree story

-Dr Mike Israetel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8zcF6Ut7lo&list=TLPQMjIwNzIwMjGqH6H1T_rGqQ&index=2

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I started at 19 years of age. Glad I did. The last point is my favorite. 
22 Jul 21 by member: -Diablo
And generally speaking you’ll be able to get yourself off the toilet until you die. Very important!! 
22 Jul 21 by member: piggy winkle
Yep, as a 911 dispatcher, I deal with people who can't even rise on their own in their 40s because of weight issues. Several daily because of age. 
22 Jul 21 by member: -Diablo
Wow that’s a big job! I bet you get a lot of reality checks. I can’t imagine the things you’d see tbh 🙂 nice that your helping people even if/when they are unable to help themselves for whatever reason 
22 Jul 21 by member: piggy winkle
Hmmm. Kinda good news -kinda sucky. 
22 Jul 21 by member: davidsprincess
I'm glad I started in my teens. I'll be 44 this year and still getting stronger. But, the muscle isn't coming on as fast I've noticed. 
22 Jul 21 by member: PowerbuilderC
Really enjoyed this post. I started training weights and swimming in my teens. I have never stopped and I am now 55 and don't intend to stop. This post is 100% my experience. 
22 Jul 21 by member: Anne_145
ugh so I'm as good as I'll get lol. it's all down hill from here. 😝😝 
22 Jul 21 by member: HeBrewZ
Wish I'd gotten into serious lifting when I was 16 and athletic and messing around in the gym or in college. But, at least I'm not yet 40 and there is time to do OK. 
22 Jul 21 by member: LaughingChevre
Mermee, your good habits are rubbing off on your family. Great! What a gift to your mom. 
22 Jul 21 by member: LaughingChevre
Diablo, thank you! This information is priceless and so motivating. My mother had rheumatism and was bed riden for the last 9 years of her life. I do not want any part of that way of life and figuring out how to avoid it is a great help. 👍 
22 Jul 21 by member: _bec_ca
The great thing about starting training later in life is that you will get gains and benefits relatively quickly compared to someone who has always trained and has to try every trick in the book to keep things fresh! And you don't have so much wear and tear to contend with!  
22 Jul 21 by member: Anne_145
Thanks Diablo!  
22 Jul 21 by member: TomLong
Thanks for this info!  
22 Jul 21 by member: pdiberna
Interesting. Thanks for sharing! It's useful information, though, as a 51 year old man, kind of discouraging since I only started lifting seriously in my forties. But it's important to be realistic. If I'd been more concerned in my twenties and thirties, I'd be in a better place. We can't always make up for lost time. I would be interested in knowing about serious exercise and weightlifting routines that are designed for folks in their early fifties like me. It seems like everything I find is either designed for much younger people or for seniors who are just trying to maintain their basic strength and mobility. 
22 Jul 21 by member: dcs767
very interesting read thank you  
22 Jul 21 by member: mountainman2
Yes Petra... As usual we are on the same page! 😉 
22 Jul 21 by member: davidsprincess
At 53 and loaded w knee, ankle, back, and elbow injuries / pain, I know this advice is spot on. Thanks Diablo. 
22 Jul 21 by member: br_e_co
Oh gosh...I can’t remember the last time I focused on mass, only reps. This is tough stuff! Maybe I’ll try the 10-pounds weights...thinking about it. 
22 Jul 21 by member: NewNameNewMe
Thanks Diablo. I think at 65 I’m hearing more reps in lifting and maintain or increase weight very slowly. Then stay active and walk off into the sunset… 😜💪✌️ 
22 Jul 21 by member: 66Pack

     
 

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